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Alex
(VIP) Reverie World Studios
(id: pEpsIdUDe_123)
posted 06-05-08 02:43 PM EDT (US)         
Just a quick mafia mutation game that I think/hope RoLH will be able to manage.


Assassins in the Palace!


You hear the palace bell ringing non-stop and you recognize it as the intruder alert. Immediately you grab your sword and rush to find the king. In the hall ahead of you, you see an unfamiliar man holding a sword. You ask him to drop his weapon and turn to face you. At first, he just stops but remains with his back toward you and weapon in hand. You ask again and he turns around dropping his weapon. And then it hits you, you've seen that face before. It is the face of the man who has been after ODA's job for years. He was thrown into the jail but broke out to once and for all, lay his claim on the great kingdom of RoLH. You approach the man who throws a punch at you before running back. In the minutes time it takes you to recover back on your feet, you find yourself staring into the face of ODA. But then who's that man behind him? One ODA... Two ODA... Three ODA... Four? You look around to find all the guards putting on their own novelty ODA masks in an attempt to hide the king from danger. Not wanting to look like the assassin yourself, you waste no time slipping on your own ODA mask. Will you be able to differentiate between the guards, the assassin, and the real ODA in time to save your beloved king? Only time will tell.

Of course, you know it will do no good to whip out your sword and blindly slash at the other ODAs. What if you accidently take a swipe at your master? One ODA urges all seven ODAs to come into the throne room to resolve this matter. During the walk their, this ODA whispers in your ear saying he is the true ODA. You recognize his voice and believe him just as he recognizes you. But he is afraid to leave the protection of his guards in case there are other assassins waiting outside. He locks the throne room door. At this time another ODA addresses the crowd.

"Men... we all know that we cannot find which one of you bastards is the assassin by means of violence. No, it would be most suiting to use democracy, which ODA has based his fair kingdom on." We will each take a sheet and quill and write down the name of who you think the assassin is. The ODA with the most votes, will be sent to the guillotine. Long live the king!"

"Long live the king!" echoes the remaining six ODAs in reply.

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Mechanics
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Assassins in the Palace is a mutation of a classic mafia game involving a nightless play style and the ultimate goal is to protect or assassinate the king, ODA.
Assassin in the Palace is a nightless mafia variant invented by Kelly Chen and first run for Marathon Day. A larger version ("Assassins...") was run subsequently in Theme Park.

There is one King, one Assassin, and the remainder of the players are Guards who are all told the identity of the King.

The Assassin has one kill that they can use at any time during the game, typically after being lynched. Their goal is to identify the King so that they can use this kill against him. If the Assassin successfully kills the King, then they win, otherwise the King and Guards win. The Assassin doesn't need to survive to win.

This setup differs from normal mafia in that the "town" has more information than the "mafia" does. Every Guard that is lynched narrows the number of targets the Assassin must consider, so the challenge for the Guards is to find out who the Assassin is as quickly as possible without giving away the identity of the King.
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Sign-Ups
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Post your email to sign up. We need seven players.

1) RCM7525 - lynched day 1 - bodyguard
2) Jax - mat3740@gmail.com
3) Mediolanus - milan266 at gmail dot com
4) I Love Bananas - blaziken_2 at hotmail.com
5) Monkcrazy5 - monkcrazy5@verizon.net
6) Venomrider - ironroad(at)eastlink(dot)ca
7) Ninja Jedi - starlight@eeplanet.net

I'd like to give any RoLH somewhat-regular-visitors the first spots and then after two days or so, I'll go to other heavens to get the remaining spots filled.

Never played mafia? This is a pretty basic game so it's not a big deal but I'd still highly recommend reading the Newbie Guide

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Roles
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1 Player gets:
You are ODA, master of all that is RoLH. You, and your guards, win unless the assassin manages to kill you.

1 Player gets:
You are the assassin. You wish to take over the RoLH kingdom by assassinating the king and therefore, claiming the title for yourself. You win by killing the king. You do not have to survive to win. After you have been lynched, or any time during the game, you get a vengeful kill. By posting Kill: X you will assassinate one of the players. If you chose to assassinate anyone except the king, you will have no more chances and lose the game. If you don't assassinate anyone until you have been lynched, you have 24 hours to make an assassination.

Killing someone will automatically give away your position and you will automatically be killed without the need of a lynch. So be pretty sure your target is the king.

5 Players get:
You are one of the king's noble guards. You must protect the king, Player X, with your life. You win, even if you're dead, if the assassin fails to kill the king.


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Rules
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  • Day will last 48 hours. Assassin games are meant to be pretty quick since there's no night activity or flavor to go off of. After this 2 day period or when someone reaches a majority of votes, I will post the results next time I'm online. In the event of a tie, there will be a 12 hour extension.
  • If you are a guard, please do not mention who the king is until after I do the game wrap-up. Remember that even if the assassin was lynched, he can still make a vengeful kill. You won't get modkilled for saying the name of the king but you may have cost the game for your faction and have an angry mob of knights chasing after you.
  • No faking an assassination.
  • Do not edit your posts - double post if necessary. Once is fine, though I will read your edit history. If it happens multiple times, you may be mod-killed.
  • Do not reveal any information after your character has died.
  • This game is closed communication - talk within this thread only.
  • The Code of Conduct still applies
  • During each day, players can vote to lynch one person. To cast your vote type Vote/Lynch: Name
    Be sure to bold it!
  • If you change your vote, type Unvote: Name before your new vote. You may not unvote once someone has reached the majority.
  • Have fun!

    [This message has been edited by Alex (edited 07-07-2008 @ 02:54 PM).]

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    Venomrider
    Zekeling
    posted 06-27-08 08:44 PM EDT (US)     26 / 83       
    The title of this community forum reminds me of the AOEIII (warchiefs)saloon name ''Zeke's house of Zekers''.

    Currently maining (TF2) - Medic

    "You are a sick, twisted individual" ~ Blatant7
    PCDania
    Zekeling
    (id: PCD)
    posted 06-28-08 04:16 AM EDT (US)     27 / 83       
    Well, they couldn't take Zeke's corner so they had to go with something else

    "Cats are the only animals that are both uber, pwns and 1337 at the same time." -King Euric
    By reading this fine print your soul is now the exclusive property of HeavenGames.
    Nacht Jaeger
    Zekeling
    (id: RCM7525)
    posted 06-30-08 01:55 PM EDT (US)     28 / 83       
    When will this start?

    Nacht Jaeger - Ex AoEH Angel
    Monkcrazy5
    Zekeling
    posted 06-30-08 02:01 PM EDT (US)     29 / 83       
    Tomorrow.

    Monkcrazy5

    Creator of the maps"of fire and of water"

    Livers are icky, he can keep it. I take my heads like any good barbarian-Subrosa
    For the love of...leave my liver out of your sig!-Impspy
    Alex
    (VIP) Reverie World Studios
    (id: pEpsIdUDe_123)
    posted 06-30-08 06:22 PM EDT (US)     30 / 83       
    Yeah, gogogo.

    Jax
    HG Monument
    (id: Jax Omen)
    posted 07-01-08 04:31 AM EDT (US)     31 / 83       
    Uh... right. Yeah. Where to go?

    The assasin, I believe, has only one kill. This would suggest that throwing down a random vote isn't particularily bad because he isn't going to kill during the night, and so if we just voted someone off every day, we have a *reasonable* chance of winning. On the other hand, we should be utterly careful with our votes, because (especially until the game gets in full swing) realistically any vote put down will not be on the king, and so will rule said persone will be off the assasins hitlist. Clearly then at some point a vote on the king would probably be a good idea, but it'd be difficult to disguise that on day one.

    Incidentally, if someone does lay down a vote on our king, it should be common sense not to go "you voted the king, now you die," because then the jigs up and we don't know the voter is actually the assasin.

    Also a no-lynch wouldn't be as terrible, because the staus quo would've been maintained. However, since the town genuinely stands to learn nothing, and we stand to lose a lot less than normal (everyone is a townie) by lynching, I'm for lynching someone who has a vote on them already if the day draws to a close.

    I don't really know how a defense of yourself is going to go if I drop a vote on someone random, although I'm kind of inclined to do so simply to see what happens (and a 1 in 5 chance of hitting scum isn't bad). However, I think I'll leave it for now - does anyone agree/disagree with anything I've said here as to the towns way forward?

    house won this
    Medio
    Zekeling
    (id: Mediolanus)
    posted 07-01-08 05:25 AM EDT (US)     32 / 83       
    Yeah, it seems a random lynch is the best strategy. If someone isn't voted upon at all, it is clear to the assasin that he's the king (I'm going to use masculine forms here for simplicity's sake), so that should be avoided.

    The question is, who is to be lynched first? Has anyone got an elaborate strategy for that, as opposed to 'pick the first on the list'?
    Jax
    HG Monument
    (id: Jax Omen)
    posted 07-01-08 06:38 AM EDT (US)     33 / 83       
    eah, it seems a random lynch is the best strategy. If someone isn't voted upon at all, it is clear to the assasin that he's the king (I'm going to use masculine forms here for simplicity's sake), so that should be avoided.
    Exactly. Only problem is that voting for the king on day one will be difficult to pull off, since it assumes the king would be able to pull of a convincing defense with nothing to back him up.

    Also, I've just noticed one thing that could count against any random lynch: "After you have been lynched, or any time during the game, you get a vengeful kill. By posting Kill: X you will assassinate one of the players." As such, if we just play through the game with random lynches, chances are the assasin will win, since even if we lynch him we don't neccesarily win. As such, contrary to what I said earlier, losing a townie is perhaps as bad as normal. I don't know.

    house won this
    Medio
    Zekeling
    (id: Mediolanus)
    posted 07-01-08 12:06 PM EDT (US)     34 / 83       
    The thing with that is that if someone puts a vote on the king, and you kill him for just that, the assassin knows who the king is and assassinates him. So we can't do that. So even if we agree now not to vote for the king, if the assassin accidentally does it, we know who the assassin is, but if the assassin knows we know who he is, he knows who the king is. The best strategy might be that if someone votes for the king, we lynch him a few days later for more plausible reasons. The problem is that a few days later he might have figured out who the king is.
    Jax
    HG Monument
    (id: Jax Omen)
    posted 07-01-08 03:24 PM EDT (US)     35 / 83       
    So we can't do that. So even if we agree now not to vote for the king, if the assassin accidentally does it, we know who the assassin is, but if the assassin knows we know who he is, he knows who the king is.
    True. I also overlooked the daykill possibility. Which means that a vote landing on the king should set of alarm bells, but shouldn't be a deciding factor.

    house won this
    Medio
    Zekeling
    (id: Mediolanus)
    posted 07-02-08 04:00 AM EDT (US)     36 / 83       
    Well, it could be, but it should never be named as such, we need to come up with more plausible accusations, even if we know who the assassin is.
    Jax
    HG Monument
    (id: Jax Omen)
    posted 07-02-08 05:19 AM EDT (US)     37 / 83       
    Yeah.

    Right, seems it's just us two here. In a weird way that suggests to me that you are the assasin, since I'm generally of the opinion that scum likes to stay active more than the town, but that hardly applies when there is only two of us (especially since I have no idea how often you frequent RoL, or how active you are in mafia generally).

    Sooo... I guess I'll drop a vote: RCM down, and see how that pans out.

    house won this
    Monkcrazy5
    Zekeling
    posted 07-02-08 09:43 AM EDT (US)     38 / 83       
    If anyone used a trick to vote for the king, then they would all vote for him and the assassin would easily know why.

    Here's something I don't get...how can the assassin still be ruler if he is already dead? (vengeful kill)

    Monkcrazy5

    Creator of the maps"of fire and of water"

    Livers are icky, he can keep it. I take my heads like any good barbarian-Subrosa
    For the love of...leave my liver out of your sig!-Impspy
    Monkcrazy5
    Zekeling
    posted 07-02-08 09:45 AM EDT (US)     39 / 83       
    Oh...and is ODA overlord don't ask?

    Monkcrazy5

    Creator of the maps"of fire and of water"

    Livers are icky, he can keep it. I take my heads like any good barbarian-Subrosa
    For the love of...leave my liver out of your sig!-Impspy
    Medio
    Zekeling
    (id: Mediolanus)
    posted 07-02-08 11:40 AM EDT (US)     40 / 83       
    Here's something I don't get...how can the assassin still be ruler if he is already dead?
    Gameplay > realism. Otherwise being assassin would be too weak.
    Jax
    HG Monument
    (id: Jax Omen)
    posted 07-02-08 04:30 PM EDT (US)     41 / 83       
    Here's something I don't get...how can the assassin still be ruler if he is already dead? (vengeful kill)
    A case of "If I can't rule the kingdom, neither can he!" I guess.

    house won this
    Venomrider
    Zekeling
    posted 07-02-08 10:05 PM EDT (US)     42 / 83       
    We don't really have too much to go on yet but for now....

    Vote: RCM7525 (open to change is decided against)

    Been really busy lately......

    Currently maining (TF2) - Medic

    "You are a sick, twisted individual" ~ Blatant7
    Medio
    Zekeling
    (id: Mediolanus)
    posted 07-03-08 11:26 AM EDT (US)     43 / 83       
    I'll Vote: RCM too, but the rest should wait until RCM has said something, before we lynch him before he has had time to respond.
    Nacht Jaeger
    Zekeling
    (id: RCM7525)
    posted 07-03-08 12:48 PM EDT (US)     44 / 83       
    Sorry I haven't checked this, I've been pretty busy lately. What do you guys want me to do? RC's are pretty much useless since everybody's just going to claim bodyguard.

    Nacht Jaeger - Ex AoEH Angel
    Jax
    HG Monument
    (id: Jax Omen)
    posted 07-03-08 02:41 PM EDT (US)     45 / 83       
    I don't know. I really wanted to see what you'd do. I don't particularily know what I'd do in your position.

    I was kind of hoping we could get a "town-strategy" debate going, but only a few people showed up for that.

    Incidentally, what are your thoughts on either a fully random or a no lynch first day? Irrespective of the fact that you've got a vote on you (I'd rather randomly lynch someone who isn't really here anyway).

    house won this
    Medio
    Zekeling
    (id: Mediolanus)
    posted 07-04-08 01:37 PM EDT (US)     46 / 83       
    I just remember I'm leaving for Spain (see sig) this monday, with little to no internet access for at least a week. I guess I need a replacement.
    Alex
    (VIP) Reverie World Studios
    (id: pEpsIdUDe_123)
    posted 07-07-08 02:45 PM EDT (US)     47 / 83       
    I have lifted the 48 hour day period so now you guys have however long you need but if 48 hours go by without any posts, the day will end. So you guys won't need to end a day with a no lynch to get an extentsion as long as there is some activity. At this point, the person with the most votes will be lynched.

    As such, RCM (bodyguard) has been lynched.
    It is now Day 2.

    Would anyone like to replace Mediolanus?
    Have fun, by the way. Beautiful country.

    I sent out a mass email. I'll be away as of Wednesday and MagmaLord will be taking over as mod. PCD, would you be so kind as to update the player statuses in the main thread for him? Or he could start a new thread, whatever he prefers.

    [This message has been edited by Alex (edited 07-07-2008 @ 02:55 PM).]

    Ninja Jedi
    Zekeling
    posted 07-07-08 03:04 PM EDT (US)     48 / 83       
    Sorry I completely forgot about this until I received Alex's new email

    Anyway, i'm here to play now.

    Uh oh a guard down

    Right erm I'm not sure how to go about doing this; I guess another random vote is in order.

    I'm just gonna say Monkcrazy5 because I have a 1 in 5 chance of being right; removing the dead and myself, obviously.

    Ninja Jedi
    Hated most heavens
    Monkcrazy5
    Zekeling
    posted 07-08-08 07:44 AM EDT (US)     49 / 83       
    Vote: ninja jedi

    He just threw a random vote at me out of the blue...wth. Why would anyone but the assassin throw out a very random vote?

    Monkcrazy5

    Creator of the maps"of fire and of water"

    Livers are icky, he can keep it. I take my heads like any good barbarian-Subrosa
    For the love of...leave my liver out of your sig!-Impspy
    Medio
    Zekeling
    (id: Mediolanus)
    posted 07-08-08 04:35 PM EDT (US)     50 / 83       
    This is me, from Spain. There are actually computers here so I might be able to keep replying until a replacement is found.

    On topic, I think an assasin wouldn´t just throw random votes but rather vote along with the crowd, because he wouldn´t want to place a vote on the king.
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